Ep. 19 - It’s All About Climbing and It’s Nothing About Climbing with Jackson Yip

Ep. 19 - It’s All About Climbing and It’s Nothing About Climbing with Jackson Yip

What are the things in your life that have infinite complexity upon closer inspection?

🧊 About the episode

What are the things in your life that have infinite complexity upon closer inspection?

I’m betting you didn’t expect that question on a podcast about ice climbing.

But that’s Jackson Yip for ya. An atmospheric researcher by training who specializes in cloud-microphysics, Jackson is also a deeply passionate climber and alpinist who has coupled his interests in a myriad of ways.

Whether scrabbling through murky datasets or slogging to break trail, Jackson finds beauty in the mundane and labyrinthine.

In this wide-ranging conversation, we talk about:

  • Cloud physics and the complexity of turbulence
  • The importance of first-hand experience
  • How to develop mental models
  • Why we can and need to do better when evaluating ice conditions
  • The mechanics of pillar collapse
  • And more

Hope you enjoy this chat, I certainly did.

"We need these sorts of oases of perspective that allow us to re conceptualize how we fit into the grander scheme of things. Because I can tell you for absolute certain that when I'm scared shitless on a pitch, or I'm like, you know, neck deep and trying to figure out some new, like, modeling script or something like that, for representing some atmospheric process, I don't tend to just like think to myself, 'wow, how beautiful is the universe?'"

If you’re interested in collaborating on one of the ice climbing models that Jackson mentioned, you can reach him at jackson.yip@utah.edu. You can learn more about his research on his website: jpyip.com

You can connect with Jackson:

📸 @jp_yip

🧊 Credits

Episode cover photo provided by Jackson Yip

Intro music by Hannah Noelle Enomoto (thanks, sis!).

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Written by

Aaron Gerry

Aaron Gerry

Ljubljana, Slovenia
Aaron is the host of Ice Ice Beta and one of the Online Editors of The Cooler.